tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post7836189197898790802..comments2023-08-13T05:41:02.420-07:00Comments on The Soma Fab Blog: Product UpdatesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-72322530899890419662009-06-02T22:56:59.106-07:002009-06-02T22:56:59.106-07:00Please make the steerer tubes extra long, like at ...Please make the steerer tubes extra long, like at least 400mm, I am tall and find 300mm puts me in a pretty aggressive position for racing, not for riding all day. thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-50024684563445299262009-03-03T17:30:00.000-08:002009-03-03T17:30:00.000-08:00We may be getting these as early as June. Maybe. C...We may be getting these as early as June. Maybe. Check the blog in late May.<BR/><BR/>We are happy with all the feedback, sad that we cannot please you all. Too much had been set in motion to adopt some of the more intriguing suggestions, but we have only asked for a production of about 150 and we will be open to changes based on what how people react to these.<BR/><BR/>Preview: Sizes 46 -54 willStanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07679724783186959386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-53051808762898489342009-02-12T22:17:00.000-08:002009-02-12T22:17:00.000-08:00did this concept ever get realized? right now i;...did this concept ever get realized? right now i;m looking at the DoubleCross DC as a tourer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-61585911048160268612008-12-19T14:09:00.000-08:002008-12-19T14:09:00.000-08:00Interesting Concept! Here is the rub. You have t...Interesting Concept! Here is the rub. You have three different types of tourers responding with their ideas, and these ideas, are incompatible with each other.<BR/><BR/>The first type: the hard-core expedition tourist. This is the smallest marketshare. Plans to ride the bike in and outside of the USA. This necessitates a 26" design unless the tourer only plans to tour in USA and highly Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752942649693964325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-65249625624912305292008-11-13T13:45:00.000-08:002008-11-13T13:45:00.000-08:00I've got a Thorn Sherpa and it's a great frame.But...I've got a Thorn Sherpa and it's a great frame.<BR/>But, I would suggest horizontal droputs so that if you want to train fixed in the winter, you can. <BR/>Light mounts definitely. Teh Sherpa has every braze-on known to man. I wouldn't put the dyanamo mount though.Poppymannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06474985553595038775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-28015659568998639882008-10-02T06:34:00.000-07:002008-10-02T06:34:00.000-07:00Another plea for large frame sizes (I'm 6'5")Another plea for large frame sizes (I'm 6'5")tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612914753706911171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-29415902777110073022008-09-15T10:26:00.000-07:002008-09-15T10:26:00.000-07:00Quill Stem, Minimal graphics, neutral light color,...Quill Stem, Minimal graphics, neutral light color, as light as possible.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17511926446873913216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-51173502307336011132008-07-22T10:08:00.000-07:002008-07-22T10:08:00.000-07:00I'm on the verge of purchasing a Double Cross fram...I'm on the verge of purchasing a Double Cross frame to build a sport touring bike, and I came across this blog post. If the new frame is to be a heavy-duty touring machine, as the original post implies, then it might not suit me. But I figure I might as well request the frame I want.<BR/><BR/>If it isn't sized up to 62cm at a minimum, it won't work for me. (I'm 6'5").<BR/><BR/>Basically, I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-2799687926032336392008-07-16T13:44:00.000-07:002008-07-16T13:44:00.000-07:00When is this touring frame going to be ready to bu...When is this touring frame going to be ready to buy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-70312385604705301582008-07-16T11:25:00.000-07:002008-07-16T11:25:00.000-07:00Whatever you build, please make it in large sizes....Whatever you build, please make it in large sizes. You all are the only folks I know of that build any production frames in sizes reasonable for us larger riders. I'm talking about the 66cm side of things to make it clear. Keep up the good work!Rhubarbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07093730318949116574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-58583823643029912482008-05-28T17:52:00.000-07:002008-05-28T17:52:00.000-07:00Here's my plea. Please, please, give me some disc ...Here's my plea. Please, please, give me some disc brakes! I could care less about how traditional it is, or what it looks like. This is a bike to use, not gussy up and parade around town. I've had too many close calls with wet rim brakes. Keeping them squeak free is lots of fun too. Cleaning the aluminum paste off the bike after a few weeks of wet riding is even better. Put the spoke holders on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-87986174565874727972008-05-27T14:41:00.000-07:002008-05-27T14:41:00.000-07:00For real, the comments about looking at a Miyata 1...For real, the comments about looking at a Miyata 1000 are bang-on - it's a fantastic bike, and does everything the LHT does with a lot more panache.<BR/><BR/>Every time someone I know asks what kind of touring rig they should get before setting off on their first/next great adventure, I tell them to try and find a used Miyata 1000, and barring that, get into an LHT if they're on a budget and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-82211403770568263602008-05-25T11:13:00.000-07:002008-05-25T11:13:00.000-07:00Am I missing something?For all of you asking for a...Am I missing something?<BR/><BR/>For all of you asking for a nice middle weight in a Rando style, the Smoothie ES and the Speedster both are very good. I agree both models could stand to improve with some modifications in the direction of a genuine randonneur, like Alex W and Jim G outline. In the mean time, lets all focus on giving them the best advice to dial in a loaded touring frame.<BR/><BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-77900772106373192722008-05-20T15:46:00.000-07:002008-05-20T15:46:00.000-07:00I'd like to see a version larger than 60cm; I ride...I'd like to see a version larger than 60cm; I ride an older 25.5" Trek and would like to see a modern bike (with a level top tube) that was about that big.<BR/><BR/>I think it would be awesome if your bike had 46 or 47cm chainstays and <73° seat and headtubes. I'd also like to see a touring-geometry bike with light tubing, 28mm tires, and dual-pivot brakes instead of cantis. I think there are WAYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-64310316803313480132008-05-19T21:14:00.000-07:002008-05-19T21:14:00.000-07:00Quill stem. so very important. THe big thing for m...Quill stem. so very important. THe big thing for me would be decent tire/fender clearance and a quill stem. Cantis instead of discs- cheaper and less prone to problems. <BR/><BR/>As cool as heavy, loaded touring frames are, they are the 4-season tent of cycling- overbuilt for their actual use and loaded with mostly wasted capabilities. a decent middleweight is sorely needed. Rivendell has them buck-50https://www.blogger.com/profile/08208894051289539066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-83944634860419024712008-05-17T00:23:00.000-07:002008-05-17T00:23:00.000-07:00Well you have a lot of comments and all I put in w...Well you have a lot of comments and all I put in was color. Just for kicks I'd direct you to www.sjscycles.com.<BR/>Check out the Thorn Sherpa. Now thats a rugged touring bike. It has six sizes, short top tube for those whe want drops and long toptube for those who want upright handlebars. I can't advise you on geometry and I'll assume yours will be fine there. But check out how well that frame Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-85708227303874564372008-05-16T23:21:00.000-07:002008-05-16T23:21:00.000-07:00Having ridden a 56 Surly LHT, Trek 520 (2004, big ...Having ridden a 56 Surly LHT, Trek 520 (2004, big tubes, & threadless) and a Trek 720 - Touring, not mult-track here's a few thoughts.<BR/><BR/>-Surly braze-on's are great<BR/>- The 520 was neat, but I'm dead between sizes & like higher bars due to shoulder issues. I could get it a bit below the seat so it worked but I traded it off when I found myself avoiding it when not on tour.<BR/>- The 720 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-91475239690259426062008-05-14T15:06:00.000-07:002008-05-14T15:06:00.000-07:00I support the less expensive alternative to the At...I support the less expensive alternative to the Atlantis approach. I have wanted one of those a while but I can't pull the trigger. At least not till the kids move out. I do not think the LHT is a less expensive alternative to the Atlantis. The Atlantis can handle bigger tires and for us larger folks, an adventure bike requires a tire larger than 42c with fenders. I want some Big Apples in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-39151369046060145172008-05-13T12:33:00.000-07:002008-05-13T12:33:00.000-07:00I think the plan sounds good. And I'm rather surpr...I think the plan sounds good. And I'm rather surprised by the responses. Soma announces plans for a "heavy duty touring frame," only to be told to make something else...<BR/><BR/>There are diverging opinions about what makes a good heavy duty touring frame, and you won't satisfy everyone.<BR/><BR/>Sure, you can copy a Kogswell P/R or a Singer instead of making a better LHT or cheaper Atlantis, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-22762620967782784702008-05-12T13:48:00.000-07:002008-05-12T13:48:00.000-07:00"What head angles and fork rake combos were you ri..."What head angles and fork rake combos were you riding with to get better than avg front load handling."<BR/><BR/>For 700C wheels and lowrider panniers with a handlebar bag I think that 73 degree HTA with around 60mm of fork offset works well. This gives just over 40mm of trail.<BR/><BR/>Kogswell P/R is a production bike that was made with similar geometry. <BR/><BR/>It's worth trying that backAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-56609480874044255322008-05-12T08:47:00.000-07:002008-05-12T08:47:00.000-07:00I'm with alex and jimg on this one. "Loaded touri...I'm with alex and jimg on this one. "Loaded touring" is covered. Go for the sporty rando style nitch.<BR/><BR/>Low trail front end (40mm ?) with proper front rack and fender fitment, for tires up to 38mm or so.<BR/><BR/>Ed Braleys' 650b conversion of the Speedster is brilliant. The Speedster frame with a low trail fork option would be very cool.wadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03092265796157135252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-11837757999227962832008-05-11T18:53:00.000-07:002008-05-11T18:53:00.000-07:00Dude, you guys have the who's who commenting on yo...Dude, you guys have the who's who commenting on your bike. You better listen. I agree, not another Surly LHT clunker. Think Miyata 1000, Centurion Pro Tour 15, or A Homer Hilsen. Slack angles, 435 to 455 chainstays, shortich top tube, standard gauge tubes, lively ride, light weight, three bottle cages, no lugs - tigged, just light, extended head tube, 132.5MM drop-out spacing, level or near Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-21016816563396095072008-05-11T16:55:00.000-07:002008-05-11T16:55:00.000-07:00Make mine orange, please!Room for big tires and fe...Make mine orange, please!<BR/><BR/>Room for big tires and fenders. I can get Schwalbe 38's and fenders on my Double Cross. Make these bigger.<BR/><BR/>Long Chainstays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-1441202087545307792008-05-11T05:35:00.000-07:002008-05-11T05:35:00.000-07:00So here are my suggestions to differentiate the SO...So here are my suggestions to differentiate the SOMA HD Tour bike from the LHT:<BR/>- 1" quill stem - It is so hard to get those clamp on stems high enough for all day comfort.<BR/><BR/>- 26" wheels up to 57cm frame size<BR/><BR/>- Size your frames in between the LHT sizes. 53cm, 55cm, 57cm, etc<BR/><BR/>- Slightly lighter HT tubing.<BR/><BR/>- Please used a curved fork!<BR/><BR/>-Dave JUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578313916360953260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1225246134093731211.post-6875293663202811012008-05-11T05:27:00.000-07:002008-05-11T05:27:00.000-07:00I did the C&O canal last fall, perfect weather and...I did the C&O canal last fall, perfect weather and a holiday weekend and our group of three saw plenty of other mulit day cyclists out but as far as we could tell we were the only group actually camping, and self supported touring doesn't get any easier than the C&O. So I have to wonder if self supported touring is virtually dead.<BR/><BR/> Seems like there are plenty of sagged cycling vacations Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578313916360953260noreply@blogger.com